'The building was empty for most of December': Managers agree to every single vacation request after company eliminates PTO rollover

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    'Company canceled all PTO rollover-in November'
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    Company canceled all PTO rollover - in November
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    My prior employer got bought out. And then that company got bought out. And then that company got bought out. And then... You get the picture.
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    Because some don't know what PTO is, it stands for paid time off and generally rolls sick leave and vacation time into one pool for you to use. So instead of 10 sick days and 20 vacation days, you get 30 days PTO. The upside is that if you're not sick often, you get 10 extra vacation days.
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    Up until this point, we'd always been allowed to rollover our PTO, in some manner. That was nice if you wanted to take time off in January, before you'd earned any PTO for the year.
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    One year, though, our new evil overlords decreed that PTO would no longer roll over - it was use it or lose it. They decided to notify us of this at the beginning of November. Which meant that many people had a month or more of vacation to be used in the remaining
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    2 months, during which we're supposed to coordinate our vacation to ensure minimum staffing levels. The building was empty for most of December and understaffed for November. Managers didn't even try to deny vacations.
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    I was very happy when they finally figured out how to shut our office down and lay us off.
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    James Bond717 · I once worked at a company where there was no PTO rollover. They would just cut everyone a check at the end of the year for any time remaining on the books.
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    They then weren't carrying any of the liability for previous PTO into the next year, an accounting thing.
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    But, workers who were desparate for money would skip vacation time for the check; defeating the whole purpose of people having vacation time.
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    marslander-boggart Evil managers are also stupid as well usually.
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    invaderjif Most companies I worked at (in the us) had pto defined by policy, not necessarily your offer letter.
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    This allowed the company to change policy when they wanted. Yes, it
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    af_cheddarhead • And people say they don't need a union. If your company is bought out the union contract still applies and the new owners have to negotiate with the union to
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    change work rules like this. FYI: Unions can negotiate work rules without having to negotiate salaries, see NFLPA, MLBPA and numerous others.
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    chriscloo Should double check your contracts and handbooks. Unless they had you sign a new contract or the handbook it was issued with, the old rules apply. They cannot up and change the
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    contract terms without you agreeing. These changes usually happen when they have you sign for your cola and other raises. They are probably hoping no one calls them out on it.
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    KRB52 I had a former employer pull something similar. They previously would allow you to carry over up to 40 hours to the next year and buy back any above that. One year, the word came
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    down "NO BUY- BACK." This was the second week of November and I usually used this money for Christmas shopping (ok, ok, my WIFE usually used this money for Christmas shopping.) After ' we were told that they
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    would allow all of it to be carried over, but the excess had to be used by the end of March. I never got to use it, then found out in July that I could have bought it back in January. They just didn't want to do it in December.
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    Macaroni-and- • So you had an entire week of pay stolen from you by your employer.
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    KRB52. Pretty much. No reason for it, either.

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